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Re: Guess Whos the Racer
« Reply #25 on: December 12, 2007, 08:03:20 pm »
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 A Hint    The Car isnt a Mickey Mouse car  It was built very well ... Altho Pel Did build the car from what I understand

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Then in the late summer of 1960, Ron and four friends purchased the Twin Buick from Tommy Ivo for $5,000. This produced a long term friendship with TV Tom. Ron would later campaign two other cars for Ivo, the in-Line Twin Buick and the world famous 4 Buick Dragster, The Showboat. Ron's parters in the Twin Buick were Bob Gardella, Pete Gizzo, Reno Bartolini, and Don Wilson.

Reno, Pete and Don sold their share to Bob and Ron shortly after the purchase. Ron said that some weeks they ran the twin twice and the four engine twice at four different tracks.. Busy schedule. Ron raced both the 4 engine Buick and the twin until he sold the Twin Buick to Billy Herndon of Tampa, FL in 1963.

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Re: Guess Whos the Racer
« Reply #26 on: December 12, 2007, 08:27:15 pm »
The car now resides in the drag museaum in pomona  I saw it in person 3 yrs ago  Ivo Had the car built  4 nailhead buick powered 4 wheel drive  It was his car originally from what I remember  I will research this intensively and get back to you 
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Re: Guess Whos the Racer
« Reply #27 on: December 12, 2007, 08:39:10 pm »
Tommy Ivo's four-engine Showboat
After enjoying great success in performance and crowd appeal with a twin-engine Buick in the late 1950s, "T.V. Tommy" Ivo figured that if two were good, four had to be better, so he built his now-famed four-wheel-drive Showboat dragster using four Buick powerplants. The vehicle, which is on display at the NHRA Motorsports Museum in its updated form as a Funny Car, was, according to Ivo, "the car that really made my career. It was built as a serious race car, not an exhibition vehicle, and it ran competitive numbers for its time."



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Ivo encountered two problems with the project, however. One was the difficulty in safely shutting down the relatively overweight entry after crossing the finish line; the other was the objection of the producers of his Margie television series. "They just about went into cardiac arrest when they saw the car at the photo studio, where we were going to shoot a cover for Hot Rod magazine. They made me put another driver in the car after that."
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Re: Guess Whos the Racer
« Reply #28 on: December 12, 2007, 10:53:21 pm »
But .. Who drove the car (the other driver mentioned in the last line) :na_na: :na_na: :na_na: ???

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Re: Guess Whos the Racer
« Reply #29 on: December 13, 2007, 04:48:02 pm »
Here is your answer   Pell bought the 2 motor car  and It sure suprised me who Ivo had driving the 4 motor  (I sure didnt remember that )  taken from here  ...

http://www.hotrod.com/thehistoryof/tommy_ivo_profile_part_one/index.html

In fact, all the strip owners were astounded by the draw, when we would wheel into a track like U.S. 30 or York, Pennsylvania. I was 24 at the time but looked 16, and Prudhomme was all of 17. People came to see us out of curiosity and couldn’t believe that these kids were the bad ass West Coast guys to beat. And beat them we did. But during my 12-stop tour, I saw that there was going to be a better business opportunity here (in California) and sold my twin to Ron Pellegrini (Speed Craft Automotive) for $5,000 after I completed the tour in September.”

There is an addendum to this story. Ivo borrowed his former twin back when the winter of ’60 overcame the East. “Tony Nancy loaned me his blown Buick, and we nearly broke the 190 mark on gas, but my heart was distracted by another project.” One of the first guys he raced on its return was his crew dude Prudhomme. “It was at LADS, and he was driving my old single-engine car with the Buick in it. I beat him and he got pissed—you know, digging his toe in the ground and biting his bottom lip. So I offered to trade rides—he in my twin and me in my old single-motor car—and we worked it out with Mickey (Thompson). It was a sucker bet. He got excited and smoked the tires, and I beat him again because I knew both cars so well.”

What distracted Ivo was another commercial possibility. “I became aware of the tremendous crowd appeal for the twin, and it got me thinking: ‘If they like a two-motor car, they’ll love one with four motors.’ Fuller built one more car and Pellegrini’s $5,000 paid for my out-of-pocket expenses, less freebies, for the in-progress, $4,000 ‘showboat.’” Problems immediately occurred. Fuller couldn’t handle Ivo’s frenetic work pace and hyper energy. “I would come into his shop while he was reading comic books and yell, ‘Let’s go!’ I was a slave driver, and when I would go out chasing parts, he would stop work and return to reading his comic books. I drove him crazy. This time I built a twin bank, in-tandem, four-wheel-drive car with the front and rear engines chained together. The two lefthand side engines drove the front wheels, and the two righthand side engines drove the rear wheels. This arrangement, pairing what were essentially two V-16 engines, allowed both banks to torque inward and counteract one another. Unfortunately, what I feared would happen did. Weight transfer from the initial launch would unload the front wheels, and they would break loose excessively. The second problem was that it weighed almost 4,000 pounds, so it wouldn’t e.t. And while it would run upstairs, it was no winner. But the NHRA didn’t know that before it was done. They were getting nervous. Their thinking was simple: If my four-motor car ran proportionally as good as my twin, then the other guys were going to build them. And if that happened, they might not be as well built as my cars were, and they could start crashing through that era’s flimsy guardrails. So they said I could only run it as an exhibition car, the first to be so designated, but it broke my heart. In retrospect, it has became my signature car.”

Meanwhile, the editors at HRM got a bright idea. Ivo was co-staring with Cynthia Pepper on a TV sitcom by the name of Margie. In fact, Ivo played Pepper’s bumbling boyfriend Haywood Botts, and the script called for a gambling boat setting for that episode, hence the striped outfit and straw hat. Why not, HRM’s editors reasoned, shoot Ivo’s four-motor car on the Margie set and entitle the piece “Showboat”? There was a problem. Ivo had never fully apprised the studio of his quarter-mile exploits. When Showboat showed up on the Margie set, the fit hit the shan. “The studio bosses got really pissed and banned me from racing. The ban put my other career on hold—kind of. I hired Prudhomme at $25 a pop to run the car locally. In fact, Prudhomme was all set to tour it back east in ’61 when his wife-to-be (Lynn) said no, and Ron Pellegrini got the job of touring the car, since I was grounded. I eventually sold it to Tom McCourry. He put a Buick Riviera-inspired, Tom Hanna-formed body on it and renamed it the Wagon-Master.” But Ivo’s quarter-mile purr-go-tory was short-lived. The Margie series was eventually cancelled, and he was a free man again. Ivo was one happy dude. He quickly ended his 19-year song, dance, and acting career and went drag racing as a professional.

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Re: Guess Whos the Racer
« Reply #30 on: December 13, 2007, 04:58:19 pm »
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Re: Guess Whos the Racer
« Reply #31 on: December 13, 2007, 07:02:04 pm »
that would be Wild Willie Borsch!

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Re: Guess Whos the Racer
« Reply #32 on: December 14, 2007, 04:28:57 pm »
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Re: Guess Whos the Racer
« Reply #33 on: December 14, 2007, 05:49:05 pm »
Gotta be Roger Lindamood according to me "sources".
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Re: Guess Whos the Racer
« Reply #34 on: December 18, 2007, 06:04:54 pm »
Something different and dear to my heart ... 9/01/06 I got to see this legend  who ran a 6.06 235 mph    Unheard of back then on a bike
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Re: Guess Whos the Racer
« Reply #35 on: December 18, 2007, 08:10:27 pm »
Elmer Trett (with help :) )
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The SS looks like it could kick your ass, the WS6 looks like it's coming over to do it!

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Re: Guess Whos the Racer
« Reply #36 on: December 18, 2007, 09:05:06 pm »
YUP  Thats Him  I was there Sept 1 1996  and was  a unfortunate witness to his last ride     That Weekend was terrible  Blaine Johnson s last ride was the Afternoon before  Aug 31 1996  same track  same US Nationals  NHRA Sure had a bad weekend there that year


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Re: Guess Whos the Racer
« Reply #37 on: December 25, 2007, 11:27:45 am »
another.............
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Re: Guess Whos the Racer
« Reply #38 on: December 25, 2007, 12:47:21 pm »
sort of a guess is it Dyno Don Nicholson ???

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Re: Guess Whos the Racer
« Reply #39 on: December 25, 2007, 01:41:01 pm »
Good Guess but no It Isnt Nicholson ..   His Car Was Called  " THE ELIMINATOR" .....Still open .....

 been long enough eor  a hint .....

You dont know "Jack"
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Re: Guess Whos the Racer
« Reply #40 on: January 16, 2008, 12:50:50 pm »
I only come up with Don Nicholson on my searches.....   Google rocks!

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Re: Guess Whos the Racer
« Reply #41 on: January 16, 2008, 03:16:15 pm »
google has failed you  It is not nicholson  nich's car was the eliminator 1 This car has kendall gt1 on it 
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Re: Guess Whos the Racer
« Reply #42 on: January 16, 2008, 06:07:25 pm »
Thanks for the hint.  How about Jack Chrisman?

The SS looks like it could kick your ass, the WS6 looks like it's coming over to do it!

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Re: Guess Whos the Racer
« Reply #43 on: January 16, 2008, 06:55:20 pm »
YUP  you got it Sad :)      now I can post another
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Re: Guess Whos the Racer
« Reply #44 on: January 16, 2008, 07:04:33 pm »
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Re: Guess Whos the Racer
« Reply #45 on: January 17, 2008, 09:48:25 am »
Based on the signature on the photo, Im gonna have to go with Jake Johnston  :rofl:

But maybe its Gene Snow.....
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Re: Guess Whos the Racer
« Reply #46 on: January 17, 2008, 02:50:02 pm »
I wouldnt leave the name on the pic of who it is    But  you are right  It is Gene Snow  :)
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Re: Guess Whos the Racer
« Reply #47 on: January 18, 2008, 12:41:29 pm »
Was it Jack? or Art Chrisman that ran that car?

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Re: Guess Whos the Racer
« Reply #48 on: January 19, 2008, 08:53:03 am »
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« Reply #49 on: January 19, 2008, 08:59:14 am »
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